![]() ![]() I don't think the Jagger/Richards or Lennon/McCartney 'business arrangements' were net positives for the bands per se, as they certainly did lead to bad feelings and contributions that went unrecognized by the other band members. I "wrote" some songs while living in Japan (lyrics and main melody) to start with, but they would be nothing (it was merely fun anyway) without the subsequent input of my Japanese band mates (for instance helping out with a suitable "bridge" to have that all important break ). Not to forget Ronnie, who, surprise, was given credit on a lot of songs (how about the "deal" on the song It's Only Rock and Roll?) But we all know that on quite some great earlier as well as later Stones songs there was influential input from f.i. Okay, there were these Nanker/Phelge examples, but that was merely another one of those Oldham tricks.ĭecades later Mick and Keith allowed some "strangers" like Pierre de Beauport to be part of the credit (no more Oldham influences). That should have happened with the Stones too. But I'm not happy with the ever returning rubbish about what song writing is all about. I remember being surprised that they made a complete album with own songs and I still love the album. The variety of songs on Aftermath was high. I was a bit tough there on Mick and Keith. Not sure if I buy the premises for your theory about Mick and Keith, though, but that's another story Indeed, but the whole band's contributions (and Nicky's!) made the tune what it is. Written by J/R yes, but a shining diamond thanks to Brian. Only when Brian's mental state changed to bad, things changed, but not really completely up to "No Expections". Route 66 was a true band effort, not a Mick/Keith thing. When interviewed he said that the way the Rolling Stones interpreted his meanwhile famous song (Nat King Cole, f.i.) was the way he liked best of all other interpretations. Remember it was Oldham who "forced" them into songwriting when the band was already mature in making great songs originating from others.Īlso, a lot of the Aftermath songs, all written by J/R would have been mediocre without Brian's subtle and by times great additions.īobby Troup wrote Route 66. If Brian would not have had the ambition to start a band (which became the Rollin(g) Stones) Mick and Keith may for sure not have become the great songwriters they were/are. That is a kind of statement one can not do anything with. Keep in mind that we never would have heard Brian’s slide guitar if Keith hadn't written the music. I liked that Black Sabbath gave credit to all members, even though Geezer would write the lyrics for Ozzy, who then mostly sang the melody of Tony's power chords! Shouldn't the drummer be given some credit for the creation the structure as well? Bill certainly should get some for his nice basslines tying it all together. Sometimes the feel and mood are just as important to the creation as a simple chord sequence. Personally, unless some members were missing entirely, I would include all the members more often than not. In general, one could speculate, they were following the Lennon/McCartney stamp with a Jagger/Richards one, regardless of the other bandmates contribution. I have no idea if Keith also had a hand in the lyrics and the singing melody. ![]() It can be compared to creating the melody for the lyrics and warrant some songwriting credit. Brian's dulcimer-riff sounds like it's essential to the song, although we don't know what came first - that riff or Mick's vocal melody (it's the same).įor No Expectations, I would rate strumming an A and E chord (with a D thrown in at the end) lower than creating a melodical theme that fits like Brian did with his slide part. Lady Jane could be a "grey area" track, though. On The Last Time, however, it sounds like Keith is following the riff Brian wrote. He is following the chords Keith wrote with his slide guitar. There is a difference between laying down a superb guitar track and writing a song. ![]()
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